If that scripture is right, then they were raised up to go where? not to heaven but to their homes in the city. To do what? I believe it was to show others Jesus power! I was just wondering thought! Did Jesus taste death and did he tell someone I believe Mary that his body was not prepared yet, so I can assume at this moment that Jesus did not enter heavens until after he was prepared. Hmm, interesting! so no one entered heaven prior to Jesus entering, so when Mary could not touch him yet perhaps he was not prepared, but Thomas did so maybe he went to heavens. I liked the fact that Jehovah gave Jesus power to raise himself! but still I wonder if this scripture is true just like you! If so that would be the first to be resurrected on earth!
Sarah Smiles
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144,000 resurrected BEFORE Jesus rose?
by tula inaccording to matthew 27:52-53.
(this occurred during the time when jesus was being crucified).
"and the memorial tombs were opened and many bodies of the holy ones that had fallen asleep were raised up, (and persons coming out from among the memorial tombs after his being raised up, entered into the holy city,) and they became visible to many people.".
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144,000 resurrected BEFORE Jesus rose?
by tula inaccording to matthew 27:52-53.
(this occurred during the time when jesus was being crucified).
"and the memorial tombs were opened and many bodies of the holy ones that had fallen asleep were raised up, (and persons coming out from among the memorial tombs after his being raised up, entered into the holy city,) and they became visible to many people.".
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Sarah Smiles
Some say that those a spurious writings, did you find that one in the NNT bible? or KJ? are there footnotes? I always wondered how people could make such mistakes!
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Did you get a little pressured to get baptized young?
by outofthebox inwe saw an elder the other night trying to convince a couple of kids that they were ready to be unbaptized publishers.
and then he went and added that he was baptized very young and they should too.
so, these two kids were feeling the pressure.
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Sarah Smiles
Yes, in order to get married in the kingdom hall one must be baptized! I got baptized but did not get married to the man!
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I need some serious informational help from EVERYONE!
by Thedirtysecret ini am new here and i joined honestly to collect information to understand something a little better.
my boyfriend, well-now kinda boyfriend (were at a weird place) is a jehovah's witness and i am not.
he waited a little "far" into our relationship to tell me he was, which created a mess, honestly an emotional dyfunctional mess.
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Sarah Smiles
Hang in there with him! He is going through some changes. He keep his religion a secret because he was taught that he needs not to profame God's name. He can not marry you unevenly yoke unless he is having an affair and feels guilty. Ask him if he is baptized? Thats important! Because if he is baptized then that makes it harder for him! It hard to have premarital relationship that will hinder his family life and he knows it! He wants to keep you a secret because it is a big taboo! Let him open the door to those secrets! If his family does not know anything about your sex life, well keep it a secret!
You do need to talk to him about living together! He probably will not do that unless you are married. The elders in the religion are going to want you both to get married. That is between the two of you. As far as marital relationship what happens between you and your husbands is your business. The religion does not get into what you and your husband is doing in the bed.
He sounds confused right now, so you can hang in there and go throug his changes and secret life. You are his secret life! if that is okay with you. Hang in there he is probably a nice guy! Does he overly drink because that will be a sign of something you might not be able to handle and you do have children? How is he with your children? Can you go around his family without them knowing anything about your premartial affair? There are a lot of young Jehovah's Witnesses that keep that part a secret, it called having something of their own. You both sound like adults so you might want to hang in there! YOU do need to ask yourself some questions? If the relationship goes toward marriage, Will you have Christmas? of Birthday parties for your children? Tell him that you do not plan on going to the meeting with him because that is being honest! My brother married a non beliver and they have been married for 40 years. It a really good marriage. Anyhow, you need to ask yourself the above questions before marriage comes up! One more thing, does he have goals? work or school? because a lot of JDUB struggle trying to make the bills. They do not plan for a future! There is an old book Women Who Love Too Much! maybe you should read it.
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Star Fallen from Heaven ... Christ? Revelation 9:1 Study this Week
by jgnat inheck, if hubby asks me to study, you guys get to study along with me, too.
this week we are studying the first paragraphs of chapter 22, "the first woe - locusts" from the study book, "revelation, it's grand climax at hand".
i can't pass paragraph six without commenting.. first of all, here's the paragraph in its entirety.
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Sarah Smiles
Cute! maybe you can go to the next book study wearing a locust pin and a bee in your bonnet!
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A summary of the last 10 years?
by Erace ini have been df'd for just over 10 years and really haven't thought much about the religion since, except for the fear dying in armageddon.
one of my family members has been bugging me the last year or so to come back and that is what started my research and why i found this sight.
of course, after doing about 15 minutes of research, i realized how crazy i was raised and how nobody that is a witness today has any idea of where this religion came from.
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Sarah Smiles
8,800 of the 144,000 now remains living on the earth! They were going to catch me up on all the changes but I left. 10 years out wew, did you have the Revelation It Grand Climax Is At Hand? that was a really strange book for me when I came back. I just wondered if many left because of that book.
It really seems so different, the assemblies are all different! People are rude and not as friendly I guess they are all stressed out! The blood is different they can now take parts of blood, which is really blood. They are donating blood machines at local hopitals over seas. In the past, people could not clean their own blood! I guess now they are helping hospital with advanced surgery. Makes them look good! Oh and they will tell people to go get restraining orders against someone. They are getting ready to have a WT for door to door and another for members only.
Oh they are really telling people how trouble times are! and wanting others JDUBs to speak to inactives people about it to scare you! You know when you see one at the store. You know they have pioneer schools to make the pioneers special! It really is political than Bush!
Oh I was out for long time.
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Active JWsA Birthday Was Used to Preserve the Lineage of Jesus
by AuldSoul injoseph was imprisoned because of false accusations made by potiphar's wife.
he had at least two cell mates, a cupbearer and a bakerwe do not know the charges against either prisoner.. joseph's cell mates had dreams.
by god's power, he interpreted the dreams, including which day the dream prophecies would be fulfilled.
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Sarah Smiles
Jesus said that not even he was good! only the Father!
Yes, I think that is a good reason not to attend meetings! Also, the only one who can spiritually execute someone is Jesus or Jehovah. I'm going to give you my honest opinnion! YOU are too smart to go to meetings! Your advanced in wanting to know more in details then what the Jehovah's Witnesses can provide you. In reality you sound like you need more and will gain it without boring yourself with little JDUB flaws in research and thinking! Find a place smarter than you so you can grow. I remember when I mapped out the OT it was exciting! I picked up The Good Land and wondered what happened! They left out almost the entire OT! People and lands that are important to understand. And their children books wew, Adams was not created in the Garden ok! who would want to teach their children about things that are not even close to accurate!
You are too smart! LOL
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Christmas Is Not Pagan!
by Sarah Smiles insomeone wrote about christmas and i could not find your post to reply!
so here is my reply why i think christmas is not pagan!.
i just read a thread where one of the posters was saying christmas is not pagan.
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Sarah Smiles
The only one who made the birth of Christ is our God, Jehovah! I see no fabrication there. Just people adding to the his birth. I like the singing like the angels above! It is bibical.
Jehovah's Witness teach that his birth is not important because he came here to die for us so his memorial is important. They teach that if his birth was important for us to keep, he would have said to keep his birthday. I disagree with them! Paul seem to think it was important for Christ newly gathered group of believers, or else they would have been swayed to pagans who did not know Jesus birth as well as his death and when he raised up to heavens.
It is important and should be to all Jehovah's Witness and exJehovah's Witnesses although I am not in exs. LOL
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Baptism Is Pagan!
by Sarah Smiles indo you remember the person who baptized you?
did they have holy spirit?
or did you just line up at an assembly?
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Under the influences, interesting! Ghost hmm, spooky! believing worth every moment of reading!
Thanks! still wondering and need to do research.
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1941 Consolation: Rutherford dedicates Kingdom Farms Buildings (Gilead)
by cabasilas inhere's an interesting issue of consolation (the predecessor of awake!
magazine) from 1941. it's the june 25, 1941 issue.
rutherford is still president of the wt society.
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Sarah Smiles
Rutherford doing something nice, must be before he was put into jail were he went a little crazy and started picking on everyone! You know if anyone think Russell's writings were strange they really should read Rutherford works! He has BIG BUSINESS which is now big business in the Revelation book. I believe it means Jewish business men! Do you think he went a little nuts when he thought that every little detail of the OT had to be fullfilled and state with details their modern day application? Boy I sure do sound like a JDUB!
Consulation! Hmmm, I think that one has some strange stuff in it I will down load it later and tell you what I think! Did you read it?